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Post by REDstar2 on Sept 3, 2009 9:10:02 GMT -5
Has anyone finished reading Dark Slayer yet? What did you think about it?
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Post by Cynthiax3 on Sept 3, 2009 10:29:55 GMT -5
I did. I thought it was great. A very emotional book. I was in tears more then once. To even just imagine the pain that Ivory went through and to still be sane just shows her strength.
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Post by REDstar2 on Sept 3, 2009 11:46:13 GMT -5
Ivory and Razvan were two of the most kickass and emotionally strong characters we've meet so far in the Dark Series. I also think they had one of the most committed lifemate relantionships in the series. Troughout the entire story, Ivory and Razvan were 100% there for each other and they always should up for each other and worked together. They really had a partnership and a real respect for each other.
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Post by Cynthiax3 on Sept 5, 2009 20:29:21 GMT -5
I agree. There was none of the oh she is a woman I better protect her. Yes he wanted to protect her but he also respected that she was a warrior of great power and strength.
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Post by REDstar2 on Sept 5, 2009 20:37:54 GMT -5
He also didn't mind learning the skills of a warrior from her, and she had enough respect for him, that she didn't push him away, when he tried to help and protect her, cause she was smart enough to see he admired her skills, and that he was only trying to be there for her; she could accept his help, without getting all testy about a MAN trying to help her, cause she believed lifemates should protect one another.
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Post by Cynthiax3 on Sept 6, 2009 10:15:12 GMT -5
I know. They were so in tune with each other. It was great.
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Post by REDstar2 on Sept 14, 2009 12:30:13 GMT -5
Has anyone else had time to read the book yet?
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Post by maydayp on Sept 14, 2009 14:30:20 GMT -5
I've read the book, I'm going to reread it again soon, since I feel like I missed something. but I didn't like how easy it was for them to accept each other, maybe I'm just used to the normal acceptance problems, or the guys having a hard time adjusting their behavior. in this book it seems missing. I'm hoping that when I reread it I'll find what I'm missing and have things make more sense.
edit. she's also not very consistent with Ivory. Ivory refers to lifemates (or lifemating) as the curse of the Carpathian women, yet she easily accepts razvan. (I'm rereading it right now). but it is/was definitely interesting to see all the other characters from new eyes. where we are no seeing from their perspective, or that of a favourable one. instead they are all shown suspicion and mistrust (well except their non vampire family members).
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Post by elledrake on Sept 19, 2009 19:05:33 GMT -5
I loved it. I'm glad to see such tortured souls find their happy ending. I want Skyler and Dimitri's story soon.
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Post by delphine on Sept 28, 2009 16:55:42 GMT -5
Hello girls, I´m back. I´m having a little hard time with work and myself right now so sorry for being absent.
I really liked Dark Slayer though I admit I had a little hard time to adjust to some parts of Ivory´s character.
I don´t really recall who said it and it doesn´t really matter ... it was a comment about how Natalya and Vik behaved and that they would have to redeem themselves. I admit it annoyed me a bit. Their behavior, and that of the other ancients was completely understandable from their point of view. Especially since Natalya was already fooled und used by Razvan/Xavier and nearly got Vikirnoff killed because he hesitated and didn´t trust his instinct - of course, her emotions are completely out of control and she doubts her feelings. Same for Vikirnoff, being normal wanting to protect his lifemate and community and to be reverent toward someone you never came in real contact with before.
Because, honestly, Ivory isn´t the master of tolerance herself, of seeing the other´s view or of fairness. I´ll probably be get banged over my head, but she annoyed me really in that point. I found her a bit self-righteous and having a double-standard. She at first should understand mistrust and needing others to prove themselves. She doesn´t trust the others an inch but wants them to give her and Razvan blind trust? Would she be on the other side she would act as suspicious or more, be honest. I´ll think we will see when Dominic comes back - Ivory won´t be the first one to open her arms to him.
Don´t misunderstand me, please, I liked the book very much, but I think Ivory really needs to work more on herself on that part. She reproaches a behavior to the others she absolutely follows herself. After all, she mistrusted Mikahil just out of the fact being a Dubrinsky, and she really could have helped much earlier had she done the thing to let be what she wants the others to do with Razvan. And concerning the ancients behavior concerning Mikhail, like Razvan said himself, had they then questioend Vlad Dubrinsky, those events could have been prevented. They didn´t question his authority itself, they just seemed necessary to check for themselves which is completely okay for me. I´d do the same.
Well, you get my point. Everyone´s behaviour was completely understandable being in their shoes, no one needs to redeem themselves. They just need to learn to reach out toward each other, to live together and to learn each other.
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Post by delphine on Sept 28, 2009 16:56:21 GMT -5
Because, really, black and white is to easy a point to see the world. There are so much shades of gray and each one of us know that of himself. I´d never class myself as being 100 percent good. No one can. Everyone has to fight his demons and lets them out now and then. That´s why I like the books so much also, it shows those eternal struggle with yourself.
"The real master is the one who wins over himself" (the saying is not quite like that but you get the meaning ... ;-) )
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Post by REDstar2 on Sept 29, 2009 21:59:43 GMT -5
I agree that the trust issue just wasn't the other Carpathian's faults; Ivory certainly isn't above being I-DON'T-TRUST-ANYONE-UNTIL-THEY-ABSOLUTLY-PROVE-THEMSELVES-TO-ME, and she did sometimes show that attitude to Mikhail and the others. Bascially, I think the blame could be layed in half: 1. After finding some strong evidence that Razvan wasn't guilty of being the Carpathian's worse enemy in Dark Curse, they should having given him the benefit of the doubt in Dark Slayer, and not automatically make him their scrapegoat, and try to be more respectful of him and Ivory's pasts, and their abilities, such as in the case of the hunters. 2. In Ivory's case, she should have been more understanding and tried to see the situation from their point of view, and acknowledge that all warriors, herself included, tend to be totally on guard when it comes to a possible enemy, that may be the destruction of their race. In all, they all should make an apology to each other, and stop with all the suspicion and high-and-mightynes when it comes to treating each other; they'll never make any progress as a true race if they keep that attitude up.
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Post by REDstar2 on Oct 2, 2009 5:34:03 GMT -5
If anyone interested, please reply back to my last post. ;DThankyou.
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Post by Cynthiax3 on Oct 2, 2009 7:33:49 GMT -5
I think if some of the women hadn't been pregnant that they might have accepted them both a little easier. I think their protective instincts towards the women made them even more distrusting and cautious.
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Post by REDstar2 on Oct 2, 2009 12:34:55 GMT -5
Good point Cyn.  Whenever pregnant women are involved, the Carpathians are always totally on guard, and with good reason, seeing what their problems right now, are. |
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Whenever pregnant women are involved, the Carpathians are always totally on guard, and with good reason, seeing what their problems right now, are.