Carpathian Timeline

[delphine]

Okay, I´ve been thinking about these for a long time and I`m giving you the very raw, first draft. I want to do a timeline not only of the births but also of the events in the Carpathian world.
I´d be grateful for corrections and further details you can give me, just add a reference like the book and page, please.

Thanks

;D

[delphine]

Facts/First Mental notes (to be continued)

Dark Peril stated for 2010, some of the events in Dark Slayer also; Snow lays in the Carpathians Mountains from the Mid of November until the end of March so the setting and timing is possible – I´m counting backwards

First computers developed 1941 (Z3), better development 1956 which could be used so I set Dark Prince in 1956 (which will have to be overviewed with the release of the original version) I don´t think I will set it that early; I have to recheck the backwards counting from Dark Slayer/Peril on – to be checked

Razvan and Natalya older than Mikhail and Gregori, so born before 1400

Meaning the events with Rhiannon taking place way before 1400

Natalya´s and Razvan´s mother killed when they are ten, their father disappears then also (tortured and killed by Xavier, Solren already then pulls the compulsion on Natalya to find the Ice Cave when it´s entered)

The osman-walachian war took place in the time 1394 until 1418 when the walachian leader Mircea died, but there was one heavy war in 1400 where the osmans were forced to retreat. All in all a heavy time where also the Carpathians were involved and the events interjected and covered Xavier ;-)

Rand meets Maggie O´Halloran when Noelle is already pregnant so this is set also in 1955/56???; Noelle even aggressed Maggie as she tells in her diary. Rand is send to ground by Mikhail and doesn´t know Maggie´s pregnant. Maggie believes him dead, brings Shea to Ireland and kills herself when Shea´s 18. So the events between Dark Prince and the first chapter in Dark Desire have a time difference of at least eighteen years. Rand only turns Vampire when he raises and discovers Maggie dead, so when Shea´s already eighteen. Jacques is buried and missed for seven years, so at least 25 years between Dark Prince and the events of Dark Desire

Between Dark Desire and Dark Gold as like Dark Magic there´s again a difference of 23 years. Gregori allowed Savannah 5 years of freedom when she was 18


Pulling it together: I set Dark Prince – 18 years later, Maggie kills herself and Rand turns vampire, Jacques´s captured and tortured not long after (first guess) – 7 years later, the events of Dark Desire take place – 18 years later, Savannah turns 18 and leaves the Carpathian Mountains – 5 years later, the events of Dark Gold and Dark Magic start enfolding

Counting backwards: events of Dark Peril taking place Middle or End of 2010, considering the fact that Dark Curse takes place after the Christmas events of Dark Celebration, which I set Christmas 2009; he told to give him some months before starting the current he´d turned … - in Dark Celebrations Tamara´s about a year old, so Dark Legend happens about two years before. Clear, since it states Skyler being sixteen and she was about 14 in Dark Legend so about 2007 – considering that we learn Jazmine´s pregnant in Dark Possession, which happens after Dark Celebration, so beginning of 2010 (also setting of Dark Curse then) and since´s it´s not to be seen she can´t be farther than fourth month, the events of Dark Hunger took place in 2009 also.

Dark Guardian´s about a year after dark Legend since Lucian speaks from Tamara already so about 2008;

Concerning the other settings I´ll have to recheck some other facts/hints … let me see … and start from the beginning … ;-)

[delphine]

Timeline

Before 1400

Births: Lucian and Gabriel Daratrazanoff, Zacarias De La Cruz, Manolito De La Cruz, Nicolas De La Cruz, Rafael De La Cruz, Riordan De La Cruz, Dominic Dragonseeker, Draven Dubrinsky, Mikhail Dubrinsky, Jacques Dubrinsky, Noelle Dubrinsky, Traian Trigovise, Falcon, Francesca Del Ponce, Gregori Daratrazanoff, Darius Daratrazanoff, Desari Daratrazanoff, Dayan, Barack, Syndil, Malinov Brothers, Ivory Malinov, Solren and Branislava and Tatijana Shonski, Razvan and Natalya Shonski, Julian and Aidan Savage, Dmitri, Vikirnoff and Nicolae Von Shrieder, Rand …

Deaths: Rhiannon Dragonseeker, Rhiannon´s lifemate, Solren and his wife (parents of Razvan and Natalya), …

Events: Xavier starts his experiments with the extremophiles, murder of Rhiannon´s lifemate and her kidnapping by Xavier, Dominic Dragonseeker starts to seek for Rhiannon and leaves the Carpathian Mountains, Xavier starts his conspirations, the De La Cruz and Malinov Brothers starts their theoretical conspirations, Draven starts harassing Ivory ….



Around 400 BC

Lucian and Gabriel Daratrazanoff are born




Around 900

Mikhail Dubrinsky is born

Around 925

Gregori Daratrazanoff is born

Around 1100

Jacques Dubrinsky is born
Byron Justicano is born

Around 1357

Noelle Dubrinsky is born

1388

Dmitri is born

1391

Julian and Aidan Savage are born

1394

Darius Daratrazanoff is born

1395

Savron is born

1396

Dayan is born

1398

Barack is born

1399

Syndil is born

End of 1399

Desari Daratrazanoff is born

1400

the Osman Army restarts their attack on Walachnia

Vladimir Dubrinsky calls in the ancients to send them out against the vampires ( The numbers of the jaguars and lycans are dwindling and they can´t keep the vampires in check on their own anymore) and inform them, he has seen his death and the declination of his people; he also tells of the birth problems of their women and the survival difficulty of especially female children (so Xavier already started with his extremophiles!) He names Mikhail his follower but doesn´t want him to now of the send out ancients.

Send out are:

The Malinovs to Asia, The De La Cruz to Brazil, Traian Trigovise, Falcon, Vikirnoff and Nicolae Von Shrieder, …

Lucian and Gabriel Daratrazanoff stay in the Carpathian Mountains to protect humans and Carpathians here; Gabriel meets Francesca Del Ponce in a village but doesn´t want to acknowledge her as his lifemate. Devastated, Francesca leaves the Carpathian Mountains

Vladimir and Sarantha Dubrinsky are murdered, like the Daratrazanoff´s parents and the parents of Dayan, Savron, Barack and Syndil; Darius manages to save himself together with Desari, Savron, Dayan, Barack and Syndil through manipulating a human peasant woman, they travel until they reach Africa

Lucian and Gabriel inform Mikhail and Gregori of Vladimir´s wish to take the authority; Julian and Dmitri overhear that conversation and meet the Dark Twins

1500

Francesca decides to turn human and seek the dawn, which makes Gabriel´s dark side rise; Lucian decides to pretend having turned to protect Gabriel – so here starts the legends under the Carpathians of Lucian and Gabriel

1600

The final battle between Lucian and Gabriel. Gabriel manages to lock Lucian with him in the ground.





1957

Noelle Dubrinsky is murdered
Mikhail meets Raven
Rand send to ground

[Cynthiax3]

Wow. You did a lot of work on those.

[Autumn Weaver]

Wow, nice work on figureing out the timeline . My head would have exploded if I tried to figure all that out

on a side note: Wow, I haven't been on in a long time

[Najika]

Mikhail couldn't have met Raven in 1957....Computers hadn't been invented then and it clearly says in the following exert that he had one:

"Absolutely, child. He gave me the impression that he would be gone this day until nightfall without the usual means of contacting him." He grinned at her, a conspirator's grin. "Personally, I use his pager. Gadgets fascinate me. When I visit him, I play on his computer as often as I can. Once I locked the thing up and it took him a while to figure out what I did to it." He was absurdly pleased with that. "Of course, you understand, I could have told him, but it would have taken all the fun out of it."

[TammysMom]

I'm very interested in understanding the timeline of CF's Dark series. There is a lot of work to point out on this, but the earliest practical date for Dark Prince would be 1962. While the pager was introduced in New York hospitals in the 1950s, it wasn't ready for general use until 1962 when Ma Bell introduced it for personal use. OTOH, the "personal computer" was initially introduced (as opposed to a programmable calculator) between 1971 and 1977 with the first personal computer (as we would recognize it) coming on the scene between 1978 and 1981. I always linked Mikhail and Raven in the early to mid 1970's. So, if we were to put Raven and Mikhail around 1977, and there was 25 years between Dark Prince and Dark Desire, then Dark Desire was timed in 2002, and Dark Magic would be placed in 2025. Other clues about when Raven and Mikhail include Raven's Jeans... Women, in the 1950's were very unlikely to wear blue jeans (Dungarees) in the 1950s. Even if there were not 25 years between Dark Prince and Dark Desire, and, keeping in mind that Shea could have been practicing for as little as 4 years (Jacques captured for 7 years - 3-4 years of medical school, depending on where she went, and 2-3 years as a resident in surgery, and if she started Med School before the age of 18... On top of it all, in Dark Melody, Savannah tells Corrine that she and Gregori have only been "together for a few weeks."

[Andrea]

Are there missing pieces, yes, but sweetie, this is brilliant. Keep in mind, in reference to the comments, they ARE Carpathian, and have access to items that have been discovered but not readily available to the general public as they are very powerful and have means to obtain what a normal human cannot. I would love, love if I had the time to figure out the occurances between "around 400 BC" and 1400, pertaining to the births and so forth. It is exteremly feasible that the Legends were born BC, as was Zacharius, because in Dark Predator, Zacharius mentions speaking to a man that was pure and wanted to help the world, thus referring to Jesus.

[Andrea]

Are there missing pieces, yes, but sweetie, this is brilliant. Keep in mind, in reference to the comments, they ARE Carpathian, and have access to items that have been discovered but not readily available to the general public as they are very powerful and have means to obtain what a normal human cannot. I would love, love if I had the time to figure out the occurances between "around 400 BC" and 1400, pertaining to the births and so forth. It is exteremly feasible that the Legends were born BC, as was Zacharius, because in Dark Predator, Zacharius mentions speaking to a man that was pure and wanted to help the world, thus referring to Jesus.

[Marco]

Nice overview!
But indeed, given the reference to computers in "Dark Prince" the story couldn't really have taken place before 1971 (From wikipedia History of Personal Computers: "The Kenbak-1, released in early 1971, is considered by the Computer History Museum to be the world's first personal computer"), with a later date being more likely ("By 1976, there were several firms racing to introduce the first truly successful commercial personal computers").

[Mystery gyrl]

It clearly states in Dark Prince that Mikhail is using 90's slang. I interpret that to mean it's the 90's.